1                    CITY OF JACKSONVILLE

 

       2                    LAND USE AND ZONING

 

       3                         COMMITTEE

 

       4

 

       5

 

       6             Proceedings held on Tuesday, October 16,

 

       7   2007, commencing at 5:20 p.m., City Hall, Council

 

       8   Chambers, 1st Floor, Jacksonville, Florida, before

 

       9   Diane M. Tropia, a Notary Public in and for the State

 

      10   of Florida at Large.

 

      11

 

      12   PRESENT:

 

      13        MICHAEL CORRIGAN, Chair.

                CLAY YARBOROUGH, Vice Chair.

      14        RICHARD CLARK, Committee Member.

                MIA JONES, Committee Member.

      15        E. DENISE LEE, Committee Member.

                BILL BISHOP, Committee Appointee.

      16

 

      17   ALSO PRESENT:

 

      18        JOHN CROFTS, Deputy Director, Planning Dept.

                SEAN KELLY, Planning and Development Dept.

      19        KEN AVERY, Planning and Development Dept.

                FOLKS HUXFORD, Planning and Development Dept.

      20        SHANNON ELLER, Office of General Counsel.

                JESSICA STEPHENS, Legislative Assistant.

      21        MERRIANE LAHMEUR, Legislative Assistant.

 

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           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1                   P R O C E E D I N G S

 

       2   October 16, 2007                        5:20 p.m.

 

       3                         -  -  -

 

       4             THE CHAIRMAN:  Good afternoon, ladies and

 

       5        gentlemen.  I appreciate your patience as we get

 

       6        started.

 

       7             I will call to order the Tuesday, October

 

       8        16th meeting of the Land Use and Zoning

 

       9        Committee.

 

      10             Present we have Councilwoman Denise Lee;

 

      11        Councilmember Richard Clark; Councilmember Clay

 

      12        Yarborough, who's vice chairman; I'm chairman,

 

      13        Michael Corrigan.  We're also going to be joined

 

      14        by Councilmember Bill Bishop, who's been

 

      15        appointed to this committee this afternoon by

 

      16        Council President Davis; and Councilwoman Mia

 

      17        Jones will be joining us shortly.

 

      18             Councilmember Richard Clark has an early

 

      19        excusal.  Councilmembers Art Shad and Jack Webb

 

      20        are both excused from today's meeting.

 

      21             We'll begin at the beginning of our agenda

 

      22        and go through.

 

      23             Item number 1 is 2005-718.  We'll open that

 

      24        public hearing.

 

      25             Do we have any cards for the vice

 

 

 

 

           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1        chairman?

 

       2             MS. STEPHENS:  (Tenders speaker cards.)

 

       3             THE CHAIRMAN:  Seeing no speakers, that

 

       4        public hearing will be continued with no further

 

       5        action.

 

       6             The following items will be deferred:

 

       7        Items 2005-1161, 2005-1228, 2005-1399, 2006-24,

 

       8        2006-220, 2006-360, 2006-520, 2006-658, and

 

       9        2006-869.

 

      10             Committee members, we're on the bottom of

 

      11        page 4, item number 11, 2007-33.

 

      12             MR. CLARK:  Move to withdraw.

 

      13             MR. YARBOROUGH:  Second.

 

      14             THE CHAIRMAN:  I have a motion and a second

 

      15        to withdraw.

 

      16             Seeing no discussion, open the ballot and

 

      17        record the vote.

 

      18             (Committee ballot opened.)

 

      19             MR. CORRIGAN:  (Votes yea.)

 

      20             MR. YARBOROUGH:  (Votes yea.)

 

      21             MS. LEE:  (Votes yea.)

 

      22             MR. BISHOP:  (Votes yea.)

 

      23             MR. CLARK:  (Votes yea.)

 

      24             (Committee ballot closed.)

 

      25             MS. LAHMEUR:  Five yeas, zero nays.

 

 

 

 

           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1             THE CHAIRMAN:  By your action, you have

 

       2        withdrawn 2007-33.

 

       3             Top of page 5, items 12 and 13 are

 

       4        companion bills.  2007-144, we'll open that

 

       5        public hearing.

 

       6             Seeing no speakers, we'll continue that

 

       7        public hearing till December the 4th with no

 

       8        further action.

 

       9             Item 13, 2007-145.  We'll open that public

 

      10        hearing.  Seeing no speakers, we'll continue

 

      11        that public hearing until 12/4/07.

 

      12             Bottom of page 5, 2007-190.  We'll open

 

      13        that public hearing.

 

      14             Seeing no speakers, we'll close that public

 

      15        hearing.

 

      16             MR. CLARK:  Move to withdraw with fees.

 

      17             MR. YARBOROUGH:  Second.

 

      18             THE CHAIRMAN:  I have a motion and a second

 

      19        to withdraw 2007-190 and refund the fees.

 

      20             Seeing no discussion on the withdrawal,

 

      21        open the ballot, record the vote.

 

      22             (Committee ballot opened.)

 

      23             MR. CORRIGAN:  (Votes yea.)

 

      24             MR. YARBOROUGH:  (Votes yea.)

 

      25             MS. LEE:  (Votes yea.)

 

 

 

 

           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1             MR. BISHOP:  (Votes yea.)

 

       2             MR. CLARK:  (Votes yea.)

 

       3             (Committee ballot closed.)

 

       4             MS. LAHMEUR:  Five yeas, zero nays.

 

       5             THE CHAIRMAN:  By your action, you have

 

       6        withdrawn 2007-190.

 

       7             Top of page 6.  Item 2007-384 will be

 

       8        deferred.

 

       9             Item 16, 2007-443.  We'll open that public

 

      10        hearing.

 

      11             MR. CLARK:  Move the bill.

 

      12             THE CHAIRMAN:  We're in the public hearing

 

      13        at this point.

 

      14             Mr. Ken Atlee.

 

      15             (Mr. Atlee approaches the podium.)

 

      16             THE CHAIRMAN:  Good afternoon.

 

      17             MR. ATLEE:  Good afternoon.

 

      18             Ken Atlee, 5851 Timuquana Road.

 

      19             To keep it short, I'll be glad to answer

 

      20        any questions if you have any.

 

      21             THE CHAIRMAN:  All right.  We appreciate

 

      22        it.

 

      23             Are there any questions for the speaker?

 

      24             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      25             THE CHAIRMAN:  Seeing none, that public

 

 

 

 

           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1        hearing is closed.

 

       2             MR. YARBOROUGH:  Move the bill.

 

       3             MR. CLARK:  Second.

 

       4             THE CHAIRMAN:  I have a motion and a second

 

       5        on 2007-443.

 

       6             I don't see any discussion on the bill, so

 

       7        open the ballot, record the vote.

 

       8             (Committee ballot opened.)

 

       9             MR. CORRIGAN:  (Votes yea.)

 

      10             MR. YARBOROUGH:  (Votes yea.)

 

      11             MS. LEE:  (Votes yea.)

 

      12             MR. BISHOP:  (Votes yea.)

 

      13             MR. CLARK:  (Votes yea.)

 

      14             (Committee ballot closed.)

 

      15             MS. LAHMEUR:  Five yeas, zero nays.

 

      16             THE CHAIRMAN:  By your action, you have

 

      17        approved 2007-443.

 

      18             We're on item number 17, 2007-566.  We'll

 

      19        open that public hearing.

 

      20             Seeing no speakers, we'll continue that

 

      21        public hearing with no further action.

 

      22             Item 18 2007-578.  We'll open that public

 

      23        hearing.

 

      24             Seeing no speakers, we'll continue that

 

      25        public hearing with no further action.

 

 

 

 

           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1             We are now on the top of page 7.  Item 19,

 

       2        2007-581 is deferred.

 

       3             Item 20, 2007-659.  We'll open that public

 

       4        hearing.

 

       5             Seeing no speakers, we'll continue that

 

       6        public hearing with no further action.

 

       7             Item 21, 2007-662.  We'll open that public

 

       8        hearing.

 

       9             Seeing no speakers, we'll close that public

 

      10        hearing.

 

      11             MR. CLARK:  Move to withdraw.

 

      12             MR. YARBOROUGH:  Second.

 

      13             THE CHAIRMAN:  I have a motion and a second

 

      14        to withdraw 2007-662.

 

      15             Seeing no discussion on the withdrawal,

 

      16        open the ballot, record the vote.

 

      17             (Committee ballot opened.)

 

      18             MR. CORRIGAN:  (Votes yea.)

 

      19             MR. YARBOROUGH:  (Votes yea.)

 

      20             MS. LEE:  (Votes yea.)

 

      21             MR. BISHOP:  (Votes yea.)

 

      22             MR. CLARK:  (Votes yea.)

 

      23             (Committee ballot closed.)

 

      24             MS. LAHMEUR:  Five yeas, zero nays.

 

      25             THE CHAIRMAN:  By your action, you've

 

 

 

 

           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1        withdrawn 2007-662.

 

       2             Committee members, we're on the top of

 

       3        page 8.  2007-803 is going to be deferred.

 

       4             2007-806.  We're going to open that public

 

       5        hearing.  We have a speaker's card from Greg

 

       6        Kupperman.

 

       7             (Mr. Kupperman approaches the podium.)

 

       8             MR. KUPPERMAN:  Greg Kupperman, 200 First

 

       9        Street, Neptune Beach.

 

      10             This proposed PUD is for a combination of a

 

      11        child care center, nursery school, and

 

      12        kindergarten in Bartram Park.

 

      13             I've worked closely with Mr. Lewis of the

 

      14        Planning staff.  I have a recommendation of

 

      15        approval with conditions, I agree to those

 

      16        conditions, and I'll be glad to answer any

 

      17        questions.

 

      18             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, Mr. Kupperman.

 

      19             Can I have a motion on the amendment?

 

      20             MR. YARBOROUGH:  Move the amendment.

 

      21             MR. CLARK:  Second.

 

      22             THE CHAIRMAN:  I have a motion and a second

 

      23        on the amendment.

 

      24             We'll go to the Planning Department to

 

      25        explain the amendment.

 

 

 

 

           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1             MR. CROFTS:  The amendment consists of

 

       2        three conditions and they are as follows:

 

       3             Number 1, "The development shall be subject

 

       4        to the original legal description dated June

 

       5        15th, 2007.

 

       6             Number 2, "The development shall be subject

 

       7        to the original written description dated June

 

       8        15th, 2007.

 

       9             Number 3 and finally, "The development

 

      10        shall be subject to the revised site plan dated

 

      11        September 28th, 2007."

 

      12             Thank you.

 

      13             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you.

 

      14             Mr. Kupperman has indicated he's okay with

 

      15        those conditions, so -- I have no speakers on

 

      16        the amendment, so all in favor signal by saying

 

      17        aye.

 

      18             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  Aye.

 

      19             THE CHAIRMAN: All opposed.

 

      20             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      21             THE CHAIRMAN:  The amendment carries.

 

      22             MR. YARBOROUGH:  Move the bill as amended.

 

      23             MR. CLARK:  Second.

 

      24             THE CHAIRMAN:  I have a motion and second

 

      25        on 2007-806 as amended.

 

 

 

 

           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1             Seeing no discussion, open the ballot,

 

       2        record the vote.

 

       3             (Committee ballot opened.)

 

       4             MR. CORRIGAN:  (Votes yea.)

 

       5             MR. YARBOROUGH:  (Votes yea.)

 

       6             MS. LEE:  (Votes yea.)

 

       7             MR. BISHOP:  (Votes yea.)

 

       8             MR. CLARK:  (Votes yea.)

 

       9             (Committee ballot closed.)

 

      10             MS. LAHMEUR:  Five yeas, zero nays.

 

      11             THE CHAIRMAN:  By your action, you have

 

      12        approved 2007-806.

 

      13             MR. KUPPERMAN:  Thank you.

 

      14             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, Mr. Kupperman.

 

      15             Item 24 is 2007-835.  That is an appeal.

 

      16        We have a public hearing on that.

 

      17             Is there anyone here to speak on that

 

      18        public hearing?

 

      19             AUDIENCE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      20             THE CHAIRMAN:  Seeing no speakers, we're

 

      21        going to continue that public hearing until

 

      22        January 15th, which, at that point, we'll

 

      23        conduct a formal hearing.

 

      24             And for the committee members, you will

 

      25        receive a notice about this, but since it's been

 

 

 

 

           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1        requested to be a formal hearing, it will take

 

       2        place at 4 o'clock on January the 15th, and I

 

       3        encourage and ask you to please be here for that

 

       4        appeal.

 

       5             Thank you.

 

       6             Item number 25 is 2007-845.  We'll open

 

       7        that public hearing.

 

       8             Seeing no speakers, we'll close that public

 

       9        hearing.

 

      10             We have a substitute.

 

      11             MR. CLARK:  Move the sub.

 

      12             MR. YARBOROUGH:  Second.

 

      13             THE CHAIRMAN:  I have a motion and a second

 

      14        on the substitute to -845.

 

      15             Seeing no discussion on the substitute, all

 

      16        in favor signal by saying aye.

 

      17             COMMITTEE MEMBERS: Aye.

 

      18             THE CHAIRMAN:  All opposed.

 

      19             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      20             THE CHAIRMAN:  The substitute carries.

 

      21             MR. YARBOROUGH:  Move to rerefer.

 

      22             MR. CLARK:  Second.

 

      23             THE CHAIRMAN:  I have a motion and a second

 

      24        to rerefer 2007-845 as substituted.

 

      25             Seeing no discussion, open the ballot,

 

 

 

 

           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1        record the vote.

 

       2             (Committee ballot opened.)

 

       3             MR. CORRIGAN:  (Votes yea.)

 

       4             MR. YARBOROUGH:  (Votes yea.)

 

       5             MS. LEE:  (Votes yea.)

 

       6             MR. BISHOP:  (Votes yea.)

 

       7             MR. CLARK:  (Votes yea.)

 

       8             (Committee ballot closed.)

 

       9             MS. LAHMEUR:  Five yeas, zero nays.

 

      10             THE CHAIRMAN:  By your action, you have

 

      11        substituted and rereferred 2007-845.

 

      12             Committee members, top of page 9.  Item 26,

 

      13        2007-847.  We'll open that public hearing.

 

      14             Seeing no speakers, we'll close that public

 

      15        hearing.

 

      16             MS. LEE:  Move the amendment.

 

      17             MR. YARBOROUGH:  Second.

 

      18             THE CHAIRMAN:  I have a motion and a second

 

      19        on the amendment.

 

      20             Mr. Crofts, can we have information on the

 

      21        amendment, please?

 

      22             MR. CROFTS:  Yes, sir.  The amendment is as

 

      23        follows:

 

      24             Number 1, "The development shall be subject

 

      25        to the original legal description dated July

 

 

 

 

           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1        23rd, 2007.

 

       2             Number 2, "The development shall be subject

 

       3        to the revised written description date

 

       4        September 24th, 2007.

 

       5             Condition number 3, "The development shall

 

       6        be subject to the revised site plan dated

 

       7        September 24th, 2007.

 

       8             Number 4 and finally, "The development

 

       9        shall be subject to the review and approval of

 

      10        the Department of Public Works Traffic

 

      11        Engineering Division pursuant to their

 

      12        memorandum dated August 21st, 2007, and the

 

      13        Transportation Planning Division's memorandum

 

      14        dated September 4th, 2007, or as otherwise

 

      15        approved by the Traffic Engineering Division,

 

      16        FDOT, and the Planning and Development

 

      17        Department."

 

      18             Thank you.

 

      19             (Mr. Clark exits the proceedings.)

 

      20             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you.

 

      21             Any questions on the amendment?

 

      22             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      23             THE CHAIRMAN:  Seeing none, all in favor of

 

      24        the amendment signal by saying aye.

 

      25             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  Aye.

 

 

 

 

           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1             THE CHAIRMAN:  All opposed.

 

       2             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

       3             THE CHAIRMAN:  Let's show that again.

 

       4             All in favor of the amendment signal by

 

       5        saying aye.

 

       6             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  Aye.

 

       7             THE CHAIRMAN: All opposed.

 

       8             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

       9             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you.

 

      10             The amendment carries.

 

      11             Can I have a motion on the bill?

 

      12             MR. YARBOROUGH:  So moved.

 

      13             MR. BISHOP:  Second.

 

      14             THE CHAIRMAN:  I have a motion and a second

 

      15        on 2007-847 as amended.

 

      16             Seeing no discussion, open the ballot,

 

      17        record the vote.

 

      18             (Committee ballot opened.)

 

      19             MR. CORRIGAN:  (Votes yea.)

 

      20             MR. YARBOROUGH:  (Votes yea.)

 

      21             MS. LEE:  (Votes yea.)

 

      22             MR. BISHOP:  (Votes yea.)

 

      23             (Committee ballot closed.)

 

      24             MS. LAHMEUR:  Four yeas, zero nays.

 

      25             THE CHAIRMAN:  By your action, you have

 

 

 

 

           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1        approved 2007-847.

 

       2             Item number 27 and 28 are companion bills.

 

       3        Item 27 is 2007-856.  We'll open that public

 

       4        hearing.

 

       5             Seeing no speakers, we'll close that public

 

       6        hearing.

 

       7             (Audience member approaches the podium.)

 

       8             AUDIENCE MEMBER:  Excuse me.

 

       9             MR. YARBOROUGH:  Move the bill.

 

      10             THE CHAIRMAN:  I have a motion.  Do I have

 

      11        a second on the bill?

 

      12             MR. YARBOROUGH:  Are you on -857?

 

      13             THE CHAIRMAN:  Are you on -857?

 

      14             AUDIENCE MEMBER:  Yes, sir.

 

      15             Rob Edwards, 204 Baisden Road.

 

      16             I've worked closely with Kristen Reed and

 

      17        Bob Riley on the conditions --

 

      18             THE CHAIRMAN:  Okay.  Are you on -856 or

 

      19        -857?

 

      20             MR. EDWARDS:  I'm on both.

 

      21             THE CHAIRMAN:  Okay.  Let me reopen the

 

      22        public hearing on -856.

 

      23             Go ahead.

 

      24             MR. EDWARDS:  I've worked closely with

 

      25        Kristen Reed and Bob Riley on the rezoning of

 

 

 

 

           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1        this, and I agree to all stipulations.  And I

 

       2        also attended the CPAC meetings, which I was

 

       3        also approved.

 

       4             THE CHAIRMAN:  All right.  Any questions?

 

       5             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

       6             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you.

 

       7             We'll close that public hearing -- does

 

       8        Laura Edwards want to speak on this one?

 

       9             AUDIENCE MEMBER:  No.

 

      10             THE CHAIRMAN:  Okay.  We'll close that

 

      11        public hearing on -856.

 

      12             MR. YARBOROUGH:  Move the bill.

 

      13             THE CHAIRMAN:  I have a motion.  Do I have

 

      14        a second on the bill?

 

      15             MR. BISHOP:  Second.

 

      16             THE CHAIRMAN:  I have a motion and a second

 

      17        on -856.

 

      18             Seeing no discussion on -856, open the

 

      19        ballot, record the vote.

 

      20             (Committee ballot opened.)

 

      21             MR. CORRIGAN:  (Votes yea.)

 

      22             MR. YARBOROUGH:  (Votes yea.)

 

      23             MS. LEE:  (Votes yea.)

 

      24             MR. BISHOP:  (Votes yea.)

 

      25             (Committee ballot closed.)

 

 

 

 

           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1             MS. LAHMEUR:  Four yeas, zero nays.

 

       2             THE CHAIRMAN:  By your action, you have

 

       3        approved 2007-856.

 

       4             We're on item 28, 2007-857.  We'll open

 

       5        that public hearing.  We have Robert Edwards.

 

       6             Go ahead.

 

       7             MR. EDWARDS:  Robert Edwards.

 

       8             I was working close with Kristen Reed and

 

       9        Bob Riley on the rezoning of the property, which

 

      10        they approved, and also with the CPAC meeting on

 

      11        the Northside, which also approved me.

 

      12             THE CHAIRMAN:  Mr. Edwards, give me your

 

      13        address for the record.

 

      14             MR. EDWARDS:  204 Baisden Road.

 

      15             THE CHAIRMAN:  Okay.  Thank you.  Thank you

 

      16        very much.

 

      17             I also have Laura Edwards.  Would you like

 

      18        to speak, Ms. Edwards?

 

      19             AUDIENCE MEMBER:  No.

 

      20             THE CHAIRMAN:  Are you here in support of

 

      21        the bill?

 

      22             AUDIENCE MEMBER:  Yes.

 

      23             THE CHAIRMAN:  Let the record reflect that</